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-Ben, thank you again for being on the show.
I want to talk to you about the "Celebrity Escape Room," thing you're doing.
It's this Thursday on NBC at 8:00 p.m.
And thank you for that, because that is our lead-in, so it helps us, as well.
But how did you come up with the idea, you and Jack Black? -You know, we were just thinking -- So, Red Nose Day, Richard Curtis started it a while back, and I've done it a few times, and Jack has done it, also.
And we're just thinking, like, what would be a different way to raise money, to bring awareness and do something fun? And escape rooms are, you know, are fun to do.
I hadn't done a lot of them, but I've done like two or three.
And we thought maybe we'd do, like, an escape-room show.
And, of course, you know, the thought of it was fun, and then the reality of actually being on television and not being smart on television...
-[ Laughs ] -...where the connections, the neurons in my brain don't come together to put, see patterns and...
-So, if you ever want to look stupid...
-Yes, exactly.
-...an escape room on television.
-Luckily, we had a couple of very smart people -- Courteney Cox, Lisa Kudrow, Adam Scott.
Amazing.
-I mean, come on.
That's like a mini "Friends" reunion.
-Like a semi-"Friends" reunion.
It's like Ben, plus real friends, you know? -[ Laughs ] Yeah, exactly.
-But it ended up being really fun, though.
It was fun.
And Jack Black is so friggin' funny and maniacal as the game master, you know? -He's unbelievable.
-Yeah, he's really -- If you give him a sadistic character, he can just run with it...
-Yeah.
-...and make it so much fun.
So we're in his lair, in his world, and we had a really good time.
-I was going to say that Red Nose Day, what they've done for, you know, just in the UK, is almost insane, what Richard Curtis -- -Yeah.
-And so the fact that it's come to the U.S., it's a cool thing that you're doing that.
-Well, yeah, and I -- A lot of respect for Richard Curtis that he's created this.
And he's raised so much money.
And especially now with COVID, all of these funds are going to be going towards helping kids that are at risk, related to COVID issues.
-Can I talk about the U.N.
Refugee Agency? You've been working with the U.N.
for a while now.
I know -- I've seen you on Instagram, you with these kids.
And how did you get involved with them? -You know, it's -- I work with the U.N.
Refugee Agency.
I'm a goodwill ambassador for them.
And I got involved -- It was probably in 2015 when there was a huge influx of refugees coming into Europe from Northern Africa, and I actually saw Susan Sarandon on a beach helping people.
And I had not been aware of what the -- how big an issue it is.
And so I just got into it and started to meet with some refugees because I had this idea of what a refugee was, and it's not the reality.
First of all, there's like 70 million displaced people in the world, 70 million-plus.
Put out of their homes due to persecution or war or violence, and the people who just want to get home, really, at the end of the day, and they're not able to.
So they've been forced to leave their country and usually going to neighboring countries and having to live in settlements and camps, and, you know, in very tough conditions.
But at the end of the day, you know, the reality is, they're human beings.
They're people just like you and me, who, if, you know, a bomb fell on our house and we all of a sudden were forced to leave and didn't have anywhere else to go.
That's -- You know, that's the situation these people are in.
And so I want just sort of, like, be able to help tell some of the stories, meet with people, get the word out about what's going on and hopefully, you know, I think, help people see these -- see these people as human beings and not as statistics.
And I think it's really important to remember that we have a sort of moral responsibility, I think, to help each other.
-For anyone watching at home, there's a website on the screen.
Anything you can donate, anything you can give would be amazing.
It goes -- Just go to the website, and you'll see exactly what they do.
It's heartbreaking, and it's a great cause.
And, Ben, I want to thank you so much for coming on.
Thanks for telling the stories about your dad.
I know how much he meant to you.
And I know from seeing them and them watching you, how proud they are of you, buddy.
-Thanks...
-I hope to see you soon in person, man.
I really appreciate you coming on.
Thank you so much.
-All right.
Good to see you.
-You rock, bud.
I love you.

 


-Hannah Gadsby, thank you for Zooming in to our show right now.
I really appreciate it.
Last time I talked to you, I wish I could talk to you more, but you're rarely over in the States, really.
When you were in New York for a little while, you came to visit us.
It was great.
We had a great time.
-Yeah, we hugged.
Those were the days.
-I do remember that.
Wow.
Those were the days.
When we were talking last time, we were talking about your special, "Nanette," and I was like, it was so different, and I loved it, and man, oh, man, you went on to win every award.
And you got -- The Emmy was a big deal.
-Well, the Emmy was particular, because I'd -- You know, I'd assumed I wasn't going to win.
-Why? -It was an easy lead up -- Because of Beyoncé.
You know, I'm not Taylor Swift.
I'm just, you know -- So I was, like, it's Beyoncé, and that was an incredible piece of work she made, and I was comfortable with not winning.
And we worked out timing-wise that the announcement of me losing the Emmy was going to happen in the middle of my last show.
So I decided -- [ Dog growling ] That's my dog.
He -- Come on, buddy.
So I decided that would be a sad way to end a run, right? You finish in New York, you come off-stage, and someone meets you in the wings and says, "Yeah, you were right, you didn't win an Emmy." So I decided to tell the audience, "Hey, while I'm on-stage, the world's going to find out that I didn't win an Emmy," so I got my producer to make a slide that would come up behind me and say "Hannah didn't win an Emmy," and I told the audience that's what was going to happen.
I said, "We can all commiserate together." -That's perfect.
That's funny.
-Yeah, and I won.
So they made another slide that said "Hannah won an Emmy," and I didn't know this, so I was just in the middle of doing the jokes and then people just started clapping and cheering.
It had been silence before that.
And -- Crickets.
-[ Laughs ] -And I got this sort of standing ovation in the middle of the show, so it was a very graceless but wonderful moment.
-Ah, that is -- That's the best way to win an Emmy.
That's fantastic.
But here's the thing that I heard about this show that I think is very fun I think and innovative, is the beginning of the show, you tell everyone exactly what's going to happen in your show.
-Yeah.
Well, I think my last show was kind of the reverse of that, and it was too shocking for some.
[ Chuckles ] So I pretty much, yeah, I do a blow-by-blow description of exactly what happens in the show.
And that came about during the live run, because people would review the show and just do that, you know? -Oh, yeah.
-"Here's everything she says, but I'll paraphrase it so it doesn't sound quite so good." You know, and basically, they're paraphrasing my one job, which is to say surprising things.
They're just -- They're walking all over my one job.
So I decided to walk all over their one job, which is to tell people what to expect.
-I mean, are you getting recognized now? Do you get, like -- Do people go, "Oh, Hannah Gadsby, you're from 'Nanette,'" and -- more than before? -Yeah, my gynecologist called me Nanette, which was an incredibly awkward moment for both of us.
-[ Laughing ] Did you respond? -Yes.
But it was, you know -- Like, she was more embarrassed than I was, and I didn't have any pants on, so that was a moment.
-Well, she could have called you Douglas.
-That's the next hope for next season.
That's what I call my -- [ Chuckles ] -I know, I know, I know.
[ Laughs ] -Also, you know what the really interesting thing for me is, not that a lot of people know who I am, it's that celebrities know who I am.
-Oh, yeah.
-Well, I mean, it happens a little bit, you know.
But my favorite one of recent history was in New York.
I went to the tennis.
I was sat in Billie Jean King's box.
I was invited.
Fully consensual.
-[ Laughs ] -So anyway, you know at the tennis, between ends, they put -- They train the camera on famous people.
Right? And you go, "Oh, my gosh.
Look who's in the crowd." Neil Sedaka was in the day I was there, and so they played "Calendar Girl." -"Calendar Girl." Classic.
-...over the P.A.
Classic.
And then Anna Kendrick, right? And so it's like, "Oh, Anna Kendrick's in." And I didn't know who Anna Kendrick was, so I did a quick Google, right? I'm like, "Oh, yeah.
Okay.
Oh, yes, I think I do know who she is." But then after it was over, and I was waiting to be picked up, and I was with my publicist -- That's how I got to go to the tennis and sit in that certain box there.
So I was with my publicist, so it was the worst person possible to say this, because Anna Kendrick walked past, and I said, "Oh, there's Anna Kendrick," using my new knowledge.
And my publicist said, "Oh, you want to meet Anna Kendrick? Okay." And just went over, and I'm like, "Oh, no, no, no, no, no." And she went over, and she said, "Hannah Gadsby would like to meet you," and Anna spun 'round and said, "Shut the front door," and was so excited, and she was with Brittany Snow -- more new knowledge.
And they came over, and they were very excited to meet me, and I'd only just Googled Anna.
-Yeah.
Yeah.
So you're fresh knowing who she is now.
This is interesting.
-And all that had stuck in my mind from her oeuvre at that stage was "Trolls." But it didn't get stuck in my head right.
It got suck in my head as "Ogres." -Did you say, "Oh, I know you, you're in 'Ogres'?" -Oh, yeah.
You know, "Pitch Perfect." "Ogres." But there is an image of us having an Instagram moment, and I don't look Instagram ready.
I think that's an indication that I'm not ready for this.
-You think you're not ready for -- Hannah, everyone who's come on the show -- and I thank you so much for coming on -- We ask them if there's a charity or something they'd like to shine a light on or highlight.
And for you, you chose safehorizon.org.
-Yeah.
-Could you talk a little bit about that? -Yeah, that's a U.S.-based charity that provides services for survivors of abuse and abusive relationships, assault and whatnot.
I think, you know, it's a great sort of charity.
I think most people are going to be a little worse off after the pandemic, but, you know, there are a lot of people who couldn't afford to be even worse off than they already were before the pandemic.
And I think Safe Horizon help people in very precarious situations, and they're still providing front-line services for survivors of abuse.
-Thank you for doing that and bringing that to our show.
I love you, bud.
-You, too.
-I just hugged you.
-I know.
-I know.
I snuck one in there.
Bye.
-See you, mate.